Maria Car­men Punzi descri­bes herself as a big fan of the mens­trual cycle. So much that she is doing her PhD in mens­trual health rese­arch at only 25 years old. She is a big inspi­ra­tion to me and I am exci­ted to be intro­du­cing her to all of you on this plat­form! In our inter­view she shares her per­so­nal jour­ney of doing mens­trual rese­arch, how she got star­ted in the first place and what her dreams for the future of the period world are. Thank you so much, dear Maria Car­men, for the important work you are doing by try­ing to fill the rese­arch gap when it comes to peri­ods. Can­not wait to read your PhD and to keep fol­lowing along on your journey!

Hello Maria Carmen, please introduce yourself:

My name is Maria Car­men Punzi, I am a 25 years old Mens­trual Health rese­ar­cher and I’m ori­gi­nally Ita­lian. I’ve been living in the Nether­lands for the past four years, I’m a big sis­ter of 4 bro­thers and… I am a big fan of the mens­trual cycle 😉

What first sparked your interest in menstrual health research?

I’ve always been inte­res­ted in women’s rights. I still remem­ber wri­ting a school essay when I was 15 years old about the role of women in dif­fe­rent socie­ties. What really spar­ked my curio­sity and pas­sion for mens­trual health rese­arch, howe­ver, was an arti­cle I came across in late 2015. It revol­ved around the prac­ti­ces and restric­tions that some women in Wes­tern Nepal need to fol­low during mens­trua­tion. I star­ted rea­ding about mens­trua­tion… and I never stopped.

What has your journey been like?

In the year 2016/2017, I was stu­dy­ing Glo­bal Busi­ness and Sus­taina­bi­lity at the Rot­ter­dam School of Manage­ment. As I learnt about the con­cept of social enter­pri­ses, I rea­li­sed I was obser­ving some of them doing very cool work in the mens­trual space. From mens­trual cups com­pa­nies in Spain, to period under­wear brands in the U.S., it see­med like a fasci­na­ting and under­stu­died seg­ment. I the­re­fore deci­ded to write my mas­ter the­sis on how these social enter­pri­ses chal­lenge the mens­trual taboo through their pro­ducts and adver­ti­sing. At the time I inter­viewed 15 enter­pri­ses and fell in love with cri­ti­cal thin­king and wri­ting around menstruation.

How did you start working in the field of menstrual health research?

After gra­dua­ting, I kept lear­ning and wri­ting about peri­ods. I joi­ned the Mens­trual Health Hub as Inno­va­tion Advi­sor and made more con­nec­tions. The more time pas­sed, the more pas­sio­nate I felt! I met ama­zing people on the way, smart, chal­len­ging and fire-y! I am so gra­te­ful for their gui­d­ance and friendship, which exist to this day. In Spring 2018 I lan­ded a job at PSI-Europe, a glo­bal health NGO pro­vi­ding sexual and repro­duc­tive health ser­vices around the world. It was one of the best expe­ri­en­ces I ever had. I got to tra­vel to their local offices and really gain exper­tise on the inter­sec­tions bet­ween mens­trual health and sexual and repro­duc­tive health (here to read more about it!).

Tell us more about your PhD: How did you start and what is your topic?

As I said, I took my first steps in mens­trua­ted health rese­arch in late 2016. Howe­ver, it was two years and a half later that I got the oppor­tu­nity to apply for a 5-year PhD posi­tion. Essen­ti­ally, I had the chance to pitch the Rot­ter­dam busi­ness school to fund a 5 years rese­arch on social enter­pri­ses and the mens­trual move­ment. I had never really stop­ped the mens­trual health rese­arch since my master’s, but I knew it was time for the big jump. The topic is under­stu­died and und­er­fun­ded, so I took the leap! I am very glad it worked. In brief, I rese­arch the role of social entre­pre­neurs in the mens­trual move­ment. I par­ti­cu­larly study how they influ­ence the way society sees mens­trua­tion, how they change the work of incum­bent firms and how they col­la­bo­rate with acti­vists, policy makers and non-pro­fit organisations.

How has your experience of doing a PhD been so far?

So far, it’s been a great expe­ri­ence. I have com­bi­ned wri­ting (e.g. I have a chap­ter in the upco­m­ing Hand­book of Cri­ti­cal Mens­trua­tion Stu­dies) with events (around peri­ods in the Nether­lands as well as social enter­pri­ses in the space). Being in the mens­trual move­ment for the last three years made me rea­lize that the pro­ducts we use for mens­trua­tion deeply con­di­tion the way we feel about it. I am incredi­bly com­mit­ted to share what I am lear­ning along the way. That is why I crea­ted my Insta­gram pro­file @periodswithmariacarmen.

Why is menstrual health research so important, but sadly still lacking?

Sim­ply put, I believe that mens­trual cycle awa­reness, rese­arch and edu­ca­tion can change the way we work on gen­der equa­lity. Too often work posi­ti­ons, ser­vices and pro­ducts are made only in men-shape. Brin­ging in the ebbs and flows of the mens­trual cycle is a power­ful move to over­come self-doubt, sup­port women in asser­ting what they want and need and design a new, truly inclu­sive world. Why is it still lacking? Both men and women are taught from child­hood that peri­ods are some­thing shame­ful, mar­gi­nal, that only hap­pens during the bleed. We are mis­sing on the power­ful stuff!

Do you have any tips on how to get involved in the period world

Ack­now­led­ging who came first and paved the way (Society for Mens­trual Cycle Rese­arch, Mens­trual Health Hub, Jen­ni­fer Weiss-Wolf among others), learn learn learn! There are so many resour­ces avail­able and it’s important to learn from the “giants” in our field. But the most important tip is to find your niche in the space. Like Jen­ni­fer Weiss-Wolf says, a mens­trual lens can be app­lied to prac­ti­cally any aspect of the social world. What are you pas­sio­nate about and how does that inter­sect with menstruation?

The power of the menstrual cycle: When did you first learn about your menstrual cycle?

My mum taught me about it when I was about 10 years old, before I got my first period (luck­ily!). She told me a story about how your ute­rus is like a room for a baby. Every month your body does a clea­ning spree and then throws away the dust, to keep the room always wel­co­m­ing. And that’s how your period comes about! I am gra­te­ful I lear­ned it this way and I never felt really asha­med about it.

How do you feel about your own menstrual cycle? What fascinates you about it?

Unsur­pri­sin­gly, I love my mens­trual cycle! It grounds me, it hum­bles me, and it tea­ches me so much! As I have lear­ned about the pha­ses, the super­powers and the self-care essen­ti­als nee­ded for each phase, I feel more con­fi­dent in my body and mys­elf. I love how lear­ning about mens­trual cycles has brought me clo­ser to the women in my family, my friends and my friends or my part­ner.
I think the most fasci­na­ting part about it is that the mens­trual cycle is a reflec­tion of the cycli­ca­lity of the world. From sea­sons to age sta­ges, the mens­trual cycle can be a wise tea­cher in rea­li­sing that we can­not always go full speed without bur­ning out. But we need to allow for both death and birth (check out the incredi­ble Anna Buz­zoni from Medulla to learn much more in depth about this).

Why is it so important to learn about the menstrual cycle?

I believe that in a capi­ta­list society which values pro­duc­ti­vity above all, mens­trual cycles can teach us that vul­nera­bi­lity, rest and self-awa­reness are the most power­ful tools for a healthy life and healthy society. I think it can mend many bro­ken rela­ti­ons­hips with our­sel­ves, our part­ners and our friends. How to learn more? Start tracking!

What have you learned by tracking your cycle?

If you do expe­ri­ence a mens­trual cycle, start noti­cing how you feel phy­si­cally, emo­tio­nally, ener­ge­ti­cally every day of your mens­trual cycle. You know how women are jud­ged for being incon­sis­tent? When I star­ted tracking, I couldn’t believe how con­sis­tent I actually am. Knowing how your body and emo­ti­ons change during the four pha­ses will reveal your strengths and vul­nera­bi­li­ties during the cycle. This will ulti­mately improve your life. Because you will be able to orga­nise your mee­tings, work and self-care accord­in­gly. For those who do not have a mens­trual cycle but have people in their life with one, I think curio­sity and open-min­ded­ness is the first thing.

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How can we all work together to smash the period taboo?

Have open con­ver­sa­ti­ons and be respect­ful. I lear­ned that being mind­ful of other people’s expe­ri­en­ces and fee­lings is essen­tial to drive this change for­ward. I think edu­ca­ting our­sel­ves and others on the posi­tive aspects of the mens­trual cycles is also incredi­bly power­ful. It really has the power to shift how we feel about them. In terms of my mens­trual health rese­arch, I hope to high­light how ever­yone, from brands to policy-makers, can make a dif­fe­rence on how society feels about mens­trua­tion. Also, as a cri­ti­cal thin­ker and wri­ter, I want to con­tri­bute to the con­ver­sa­tion being inclu­sive, inte­res­ting and earth-shaking!

How can we make the period space more diverse and inclusive for all menstruation people?

I love how Brené Brown (my per­so­nal hero) says: “I am not here to be right, I am here to get it right”. It reso­na­tes so deeply with me. Be wil­ling to be cal­led out, to get it wrong but always try. Include people of all eth­ni­ci­ties in the design part of your pro­grams and ser­vices. Give people with disa­bi­li­ties room and space to express how they feel, ins­tead of assuming and spea­king for them. From disa­bi­lity to race, we in the mens­trual move­ment have a lot to learn. Finally, and most import­antly, accept that not ever­yone will want to talk about peri­ods, and that’s okay!

What are your dreams for the future of periods?

Ah, I love thin­king about this. I dream of a world in which women and people with peri­ods can thrive, thanks to the power of their mens­trual cycles. I dream of a world in which con­tracep­tion does not mean sup­pres­sing mens­trua­tion. I dream of a world in which girls can choose from many effec­tive, colour­ful and cool mens­trual pro­ducts. I dream of a world in which work is fle­xi­ble, rese­arch of mens­trual-rela­ted mat­ters is fore-front and no one needs to bleed in shame, pain or iso­la­tion. We have got a long way to go, but I couldn’t be more sure that it’s worth it.

Is there anything else you would want to share about yourself or periods?

I invite anyone rea­ding to join me at @periodswithmariacarmen. If you’re curious about working in this space, don’t be afraid to con­nect with me on Lin­kedIn! Finally, do yourself a favour. Lis­ten to Lucy Peach’s latest EP, Blood Magic. She wrote and sang five songs all about the mens­trual cycle. It’s frea­king powerful!

Britta Wiebe, period education, Vulvani
Britta 
Co-Foun­der Vulvani | britta@vulvani.com | Web­site | + posts

Britta Wiebe is the co-foun­der of Vul­vani. She loves rese­ar­ching, wri­ting and designing new arti­cles or inno­va­tive edu­ca­tio­nal con­cepts about mens­trua­tion all day long. When she is not tra­vel­ling the world, she enjoys spen­ding time with her loved ones in the beau­ti­ful city of Ham­burg in Germany.